Psyops against Christianity. What do you think could be done? What I am testing.
Using the methods of the last 20 centuries aren't going to do it.
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Psyops: Psychological operations.
The goal is to shut down the individual Evangelical activity. It doesn’t matter whether the person converts to atheism, another religion or is just conflicted or disabled in being an evangelical Christian.
It doesn’t matter is the effort terminates their activities or diminishes it as long as they are less effective.
It will be possibly different types of operations acting in different ways as a total effort.
The question is, what might we do to terminate or diminish their evangelical efforts?
Also, it doesn’t have to be something that works right way. It might be something that resides in their thoughts and after some time they realize what they are doing is not something they want to do or feel it is foolish or that they are fools for doing it.
It might be that it immediately disables their thinking, or will take time to work on them. It might be a method that works for some Christians and not others. Some might be niche and some general purpose.
The model for our efforts is the computer virus or computer malware. We want to put thoughts in their head that will work to shutdown or diminish their religious activity.
What doesn’t work that well.
Venting hostility towards them encourages them. They have the whole martyrology thing and the who think of being self-sacrificing for the lord etc. They can turn the other cheek. You are enabling them.
Showing the logical contradictions of Christianity. If they were logical, they wouldn’t be Christians in the first place. Also, these usual arguments have been used now for 20 centuries. I am not claiming that they are never effective, what I am claiming is that they aren’t going to do the job. We need to develop new and novel methods.
This is a newsletter post where I review it more in depth.
In someways showing logical contradictions strengthens their faith since it gives them time to review the reasons given by their pastor or priest and feel what sophisticated Christians they are.
Also, the who Christian thing is to go against the world, and bear critcism, blasphemy, verbal attacks, etc. to be glorious defenders of the faith and martyrs, etc.
You are feeding into their psychopathology and strengthening it.
What psyops might we try?
I am going to make some suggestions. They might turn out all to be bad ones. The concept here is developing psyop methods.
I already have been trying out some methods. I am finding Grok on X to be a way to generate some useful images.
Backstory:
I posted on Facebook, “You are probably Christian because of an empire, Roman, Spanish or European.” A random thought that came to my mind and I put it out in Facebook to have it somewhere.
Much to my surprise, I got quite the reaction from an African American Christian who also thinks he is a big social justice activist.
He is still Christian, but I realized that I had touched a sensitive point in his psychology. I realize that the thought was now in his head, and would reside in his head, and might sooner or later result in something. I thought, there must be other thoughts that can be used.
So I started to think of what might be done.
A key Christian vulnerability.
The Christians like to discuss their faith and they like to argue for their faith and they like to challenge the thinking of unbelievers.
So the door is wide open to implanting thoughts into their heads. They are presenting a socket to insert a flash drive with a computer virus.
If they decided to write something or give a speech to refute the idea they are going to be implanting it into others Christians’ heads.
Targeting their psychology, motivations, and contradictions.
In the case mentioned, I presented the person with the contradictions in two important pieces of his identity. I basically think they are Christian to satisfy some deficiet in their lives or personality. To escape the mediocrity of their lives. Jesus does save them, but not in the way they think, but from boredom and meaningless.
Also, don’t share them with another atheist, share them on your social media where Christians can see them, or with some Chrstian you run into in social media.
Basically get into their heads and psychologically disable them.
Some tests I have done.
Underage Mary giving consent, immaculate Mary, impregnated his own mother.
I had a short comment about the Virgin Mary being underage and giving consent to a God that slaughters people, but there wasn’t a response.
The goal is to induce emotional conflict over their feelings about sex.
I did a post on the Immaculate Mary and that didn’t get a response. This would put in conflicts their feelings about the Virgin Mary and their mother.
Maybe the key is to not do this in a one on one situation but with others observing the conversation. Also, these people knew I was Gay Partisan and it was the same group that I had tested the “When Christians fight, Gays win.”
Or it might be that my two comments are working to subvert their thoughts, but I won’t see the results.
Exploiting Sectarian conflict.
On X there is an ongoing battle between Roman Catholics ridiculing Protestantism, and Protestantism ridiculing Roman Catholics. Sometimes there are other sectarian conflicts. I started to type the following comments in response.
When Christians fight, Gays win.
I got a lot of heated responses. This is a new and novel statement for them to confront. It touches on an anxiety that they might indeed being helping out Gays. I might be the very first to have done this.
I tried it later and got fewer responses and now I don’t get responses.
I tried doing it with pictures. I think that is less effective, since it is obviously trolling and the individual comment seems more like a person. Also, being by X name is Gay Partisan, they are somewhat alerted. Still the first days it did get people upset.
I didn’t have a thought through follow up either which brings up another thing, you will need to have a series of responses lined up.
I later tried reposting their posts with the same comment. That doesn’t work, since my followers are mostly gays and hence wouldn’t respond.
But I did see that with the right comment could get a reaction. I thought maybe it might not disable their thinking, but if we got different groups of Christians fighting each other, it is another way of disabling them. The following are my thoughts on it, but I think the concept still needs work.
Perhaps it would work better if the person saying it didn’t seem like they were with a campaign. Also, follow on comments need to be thought through.
Click on image.
Being Christian to not be a medicrity and to feel special
I haven’t tested this one out. I notice that the Roman Catholics do a lot of posting of really grand cathedrals and and talk about that is one of the reasons to happy being catholic. Obviously this is a working strategy and that is why the Roman Catholics have spent centuries and a great deal of money building them.
In other cases I stated the idea of them solving their emotional problems or feelings of worthlessness with religion. The thing is that deep down they know that it is true. The downside is that it might cause a crisis in faith months from now.
I still need to test these images though. Perhaps there are better approaches. These were generated with Grok. Getting Grok to not add in nonsense words is challenging. The statements need to be really simple.
This is another approach.
This one was to upset Gay Christians.
Feel free to use these memes.
Infect Chrisitanity with something that will discredit it.
Sergio BELLS has 208,000 followers.
He does all these reels on Facebook of Jesus getting guidance or talking to extraterrestrials. He does other reels. They are very high quality and very intriguing and compelling.
It is just the type of lunacy that some Christians will want to believe in. It has the elements in abundance that there psychology craves. They want a dramatic religion. We don’t have to get all Christians to go for it, but if a few people got 5 or 10% of the Christians to go for this nonsense, it would be a set back for Christianity.
So on X and on Facebook, I shared it with the comment, Is he?, is Jesus an alien. I did get a response on X that was angry.
This is one of them.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1595505657726576
There already is a subculture about this. This is a page titled, “Jesus from Outer Space?”
https://bibleinterp.arizona.edu/articles/jesus-outer-space
At this page is an ad for a book, “Jesus from Outer Space.”
https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/23857
What Psyops might work?
The point of this post isn’t the psyops I am testing out. They might all be of limited or no use.
The goal is to break their religious belief. How do we get inside their heads? How do we assess whether we are successful?
My ideas aren’t being mention for anyone to copy them. They are just examples to get people thinking of what might be done.
There thinking isn’t sophisticated, it is driven by psychopathologies, there must be ways of undermining their faith.
That is the problem I present.
I think that there is an opportunity to bring Christianity down with new sophisticated methods. It will take some work and time to think of them and test them.
